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PostSubject: M-Audio Firewire 1814   Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:27 pm

I know, another "M-audio Firewire" topic... but I feel like I HAVE to try! =)

First of all, thank you very much for developing such a great OS dedicated to be easy for music production. While I was downloading the .iso file I was reading the Topic on the Reaper Forum about the development of the beta version, and it was beautiful to see the improvements, the joy and the dedication put on this project! Congratulations and thank you again!

So, I used the Remix_OS live from my USB stick. I want to install on the HD but I would have to say goodbye to my Ubuntu because I don't have free disc space anymore. I have a HP Pavilion DV5; 3GB RAM; Intel Centrino Dual Core 2GHz and I would love if I could make the M-Audio 1814 work. Here are the Questions:

1. On the Reaper forum the benisixx user could use a firewire interface and talked about install some jackd-firewire and ffado packages. I tried to get those on the terminal by "sudo get-install jackd2-firewire" but it was unable to get it. Its because I was on the usb live mode?

2. I have another partition with the windows XP where I have a bunch of VST and VSTi's from my Steinberg Directory. Maybe I miss understood but I could just adress the Reaper to read this directory and I would be able to use those VST's?

3. Did someone got the M-Audio 1814 working? I would love to help to get these interface working!

Keep on the good working and peace!
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PostSubject: Re: M-Audio Firewire 1814   Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:28 pm

Hi, Andre,

Thanks you or your interest in Remix_OS!

At first. If you want to try the OS without formatting or partitioning your HDD, you can install it on a USB stick or external HDD.

1) Remix_OS has FFADO drivers, but other firewire stuff you mentioned is not compatable with its flavour. But if you wait for a couple of days you'll be able to download the 64-bit version of Remix_OS - it's ready, I just need some time to upload it. It has all ffado staff and your card could work out of the box.

2) Yes, you can. You have to configure your Windows partition in Storage Device Manager - check "The filesystem is mounted on boot time". You can link your VST folder in Windows C:\ drive with a folder in Linux partition and show the path in Reaper's options.

3) I saw many issues about M-audio 1814 problems with Jack. I also red the same about my M-audio Fast Track. My card is working perfectly in Remix_OS. I think you just have to try. I think it should work.


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PostSubject: Re: M-Audio Firewire 1814   Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:58 pm

Oh, Thank you for the answer!

I don't know why I didn't thought about installing on the USB afro

I'm very glad that you got your Firewire Fast Track working and so I have a lot of more hope! I always take a look on the FFADO webpage and the stand of the 1814 is always "not supported". I hope that your magic will work here!!! And again, I will love to help to get this working, please, just let me know what to do.

The 64-bit version is suitable for all? I'm not so sure if my processor is a 64-bit... I'm afraid it's not. It will be a problem? And how is the compatibility with the VSTs and so? (I'm sorry for my dummy questions, I not so familiarized with technical issues).

I will wait for the new version! I hope there will be more torrent seeds!!! It was a loong 4 hours! What a Face

Peace!
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PostSubject: Re: M-Audio Firewire 1814   Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:44 am

Hi, andre,

Thanks for your interest in Remi_OS!

Fast track is a USB card, but also has a lot of issues, especially with Jack2.

You can check the following links: http://westcoastsuccess.wordpress.com/2008/03/23/m-audio-firewire-solo-ubuntu/, http://ardour.org/node/2660.

Your CPU is 64-bit.

64-bit Remix_OS has 32-bit version of Reaper in wine. So you can use 32-bit vst's in 64-bit OS - sounds wonderful for windows users )
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PostSubject: Re: M-Audio Firewire 1814   Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:58 am

I will take a look on the links! Thank you!

I'm waiting for the 64-bit version... actually, since you told me is on the way, I am checking your website for the update every hour!

Looking forward to install!
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PostSubject: Re: M-Audio Firewire 1814   Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:30 am

64-bit version is available for downloading.
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PostSubject: Re: M-Audio Firewire 1814   Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:08 pm

Thank you! I'm downloading right now! I will let you know if the 1814 works out of the box. If not, I will need you help...

Thank you so much for doing such amazing work!

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PostSubject: Re: M-Audio Firewire 1814   Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:05 pm

Hello Admin!

I install the 64-bit release on my pendrive but unfortunelly I didn't got the 1814 to work.

I followed the 2 links that you send me but I got 2 errors.

1. I couldn't install the gscanbus. I was unable to get from the terminal. I downloaded from the website but didn't could install. I followed the instructions from the INSTALL file, but after the ./configure command I couldn't go on with the make and make install. I got this message:
error: need libraw1394 from 18.01.2001 or later

But I do have the libraw1394 installed.

2. It looks like something is wrong with the freebob. I do have installed but Jack are having problems with it. Here is the message that I got from Jack after trying the configurations from the links that you gave me:

15:53:24.485 Patchbay deactivated.
15:53:24.489 Statistics reset.
15:53:24.495 ALSA connection change.
Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
Cannot connect to server socket
jack server is not running or cannot be started
15:53:24.503 ALSA connection graph change.
15:54:19.829 JACK is starting...
15:54:19.829 /usr/bin/jackd -v -P89 -t2000 -dfreebob -dhw:0 -r48000 -p256 -n3 -D
Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
Cannot connect to server socket
jack server is not running or cannot be started
15:54:19.864 JACK was started with PID=2677.
no message buffer overruns
no message buffer overruns
Unknown driver "freebob"
jackdmp 1.9.7
Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.
Copyright 2004-2011 Grame.
jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
15:54:20.078 JACK was stopped with exit status=255.
15:54:21.918 Could not connect to JACK server as client. - Overall operation failed. - Unable to connect to server. Please check the messages window for more info.
Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
Cannot connect to server socket
jack server is not running or cannot be started



I hope there will be some answer!


Thank you!
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PostSubject: Re: M-Audio Firewire 1814   Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:00 pm

Hi, Andre,

I checked the links again - they work for me.

Looks like your card won't work in Linux. But let's find out something. Type in terminal <lspci> and check if you can find your card in the output.

1. I don't know why gscanbus can't find libraw - it's installed. I searsh the web and found some issues with the same problem, but no solution. Will try again.

2. You have to use firewire driver - not freebob.

Give me the output of the following command
ls -l /dev/raw1394

Secondly try starting jackd from the commandline directly, with the following command. (if you haven't already)
jackd -d firewire


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PostSubject: Re: M-Audio Firewire 1814   Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:19 pm

Hello Admin,

thanks for your help. Here the results:

By <lspci> my firewire port was listed, but my audio device was not listed.

On the ls -l /dev/raw1394 comand I got this:
ls: cannot acess dev/raw1394: No such file or directory

Then, on the Jack, I changed the freebob to firewire and got this message.

00:59:37.097 Patchbay deactivated.
00:59:37.097 Statistics reset.
00:59:37.099 ALSA connection change.
Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
Cannot connect to server socket
jack server is not running or cannot be started
00:59:37.107 ALSA connection graph change.
01:00:25.879 JACK is starting...
01:00:25.879 /usr/bin/jackd -v -P89 -t2000 -dfirewire -dhw:0 -r48000 -p256 -n3
Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
Cannot connect to server socket
jack server is not running or cannot be started
no message buffer overruns
01:00:25.907 JACK was started with PID=2501.
no message buffer overruns
jackdmp 1.9.7
Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.
Copyright 2004-2011 Grame.
jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 89
Jack: Create non RT thread
Jack: ThreadHandler: start
Jack: JackDriver::Open capture_driver_name =
Jack: JackDriver::Open playback_driver_name =
Jack: Check protocol client 8 server = 8
Jack: JackEngine::ClientInternalOpen: name = system
Jack: JackEngine::AllocateRefNum ref = 0
Jack: JackPosixSemaphore::Allocate name = jack_sem.1000_default_system val = 0
Jack: JackEngine::NotifyAddClient: name = system
Jack: JackGraphManager::SetBufferSize size = 256
Jack: JackConnectionManager::DirectConnect first: ref1 = 0 ref2 = 0
Jack: JackGraphManager::ConnectRefNum cur_index = 0 ref1 = 0 ref2 = 0
Jack: JackDriver::SetupDriverSync driver sem in flush mode
Jack: JackSocketServerChannel::Open
Jack: Bind: addr.sun_path /dev/shm/jack_default_1000_0
Jack: JackSocketServerChannel::BuildPoolTable size = 1
Jack: JackEngine::Open
Jack: Connect: addr.sun_path /dev/shm/jack_default_1000_0
Jack: JackEngine::ClientInternalOpen: name = freewheel
Jack: JackEngine::AllocateRefNum ref = 1
Jack: JackPosixSemaphore::Allocate name = jack_sem.1000_default_freewheel val = 0
Jack: JackEngine::NotifyAddClient: name = freewheel
Jack: JackConnectionManager::DirectConnect first: ref1 = 1 ref2 = 1
Jack: JackGraphManager::ConnectRefNum cur_index = 0 ref1 = 1 ref2 = 1
Jack: JackDriver::SetupDriverSync driver sem in flush mode
Jack: JackFFADODriver::Attach fBufferSize 256 fSampleRate 48000
08735783215: (ffado.cpp)[ 92] ffado_streaming_init: libffado 2.999.0- built Aug 11 2010 00:17:24
01:00:32.453 Could not connect to JACK server as client. - Overall operation failed. - Server communication error. Please check the messages window for more info.
08738025200: Error (bebob_avdevice.cpp)[ 96] probe: Number of channels command failed
08742041195: Error (avc_avdevice.cpp)[ 89] probe: Subunit info command failed
firewire ERR: FFADO: Error creating virtual device
Cannot attach audio driver
Jack: JackDriver::Close
Jack: JackConnectionManager::DirectDisconnect last: ref1 = 1 ref2 = 1
Jack: JackGraphManager::DisconnectRefNum cur_index = 0 ref1 = 1 ref2 = 1
Jack: JackEngine::ClientCloseAux ref = 1
Jack: JackGraphManager::RemoveAllPorts ref = 1
Jack: JackPosixSemaphore::Destroy
Jack: JackEngine::Close
Jack: JackClientSocket::Close
Jack: JackServerSocket::Close /dev/shm/jack_default_1000_0
Jack: JackDriver::Close
Jack: JackConnectionManager::DirectDisconnect last: ref1 = 0 ref2 = 0
Jack: JackGraphManager::DisconnectRefNum cur_index = 0 ref1 = 0 ref2 = 0
Jack: JackEngine::ClientCloseAux ref = 0
Jack: JackGraphManager::RemoveAllPorts ref = 0
Jack: JackPosixSemaphore::Destroy
Jack: no message buffer overruns
Cannot read socket fd = 22 err = Conn
01:00:32.649 JACK was stopped with exit status=255.
ection reset by peer
Jack: JackPosixThread::Stop
Jack: ThreadHandler: exit
Could not read result type = 22
Client name = qjackctl conflits with another running client
Cannot connect to the server
JackServer::Open() failed with -1
Jack: Succeeded in unlocking 83678746 byte memory area
Jack: JackShmMem::delete size = 0 index = 0
Jack: ~JackDriver
no message buffer overruns
Jack: ~JackDriver
Jack: Succeeded in unlocking 994 byte memory area
Jack: JackShmMem::delete size = 0 index = 1
Jack: cleaning up shared memory
Jack: cleaning up files
Jack: unregistering server `default'
Failed to open server


Did you saw this comment on one of the tutorials?

Here’s what I was able to find out about the 1814:
“Will the M-Audio 410 / 1814 be supported?
Maybe. The problem is that the M-Audio 410 / 1814 does not support the AV/C commandos for device discovering. Though for transporting the signals the IEC 618863-6 standard is used. So that means that streaming is no problem while controlling the device is.
The M-Audio 410 is BridgeCo’s first product and differs heavily from the rest. FW410 tries to collect information about this device.
The state about the M-Audio 1814 is unknown.”
That’s from the Freebob FAQ (http://freebob.sourceforge.net/index.php/FAQ#Will_the_M-Audio_410_.2F_1814_be_supported.3F).
Sorry we can’t be of more help.


I hope that still a hope there and you will not give up!

Cheers!

P.S.: How I use the copy/paste on the terminal from Remix_OS? Is not like on Ubuntu with ctrl+shift+"c" or "v".
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PostSubject: Re: M-Audio Firewire 1814   Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:46 am

andre wrote:
Hello Admin,

thanks for your help. Here the results:

By <lspci> my firewire port was listed, but my audio device was not listed.

On the ls -l /dev/raw1394 comand I got this:
ls: cannot acess dev/raw1394: No such file or directory

It means that there's no Linux drivers for your card yet. I am sorry.

http://forums.m-audio.com/showthread.php?2643-Firewire-1814-in-Linux

Seems that m-audio doesn't want to do anything for this card working in Linux.
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PostSubject: Re: M-Audio Firewire 1814   Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:04 pm

Quote :

Seems that m-audio doesn't want to do anything for this card working in Linux.

Crap! It would be too good to be true! Rolling Eyes

Thank you anyway for your help!

Can you recommend me a audio interface, USB bus powered, with 4 ins and 4 outs that will work on Linux direct from out of the box?

For live gigs, I want to use a Netbook, a FCB1010 (foot midi-controler), Guitar sims like Guitar Rig, Amplitube or Rakarrack on a Nylon acoustic guitar captured in 3 channels (under-saddle transducer, a top transducer and a small diaphragm condenser Mic) and use a complicated chain on effects, midi emulations (VSTi) and live loops. I want a reliable system where I will not be afraid to get some frozen moments on the stage.

Do you have a recommendation?

Thank you for the amazing support!

Cheers!
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PostSubject: Re: M-Audio Firewire 1814   Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:40 pm

Andre, might be a good idea to have a look at the Audio section of the distro for starters. There's about four or five mixer apps in there but in typical linux naming-convention fashion, it's not immediately obvious which audio units these are becaise they generally relate to the chip-set supported rather than a brand.

On the upside, this means that regardless of brand, if the core hardware uses chip-set x with a little bit of .asoundrc-bashing you will get the result that you want.

JACK by default only supports 2in and 2out so whilst it's not impossible to sort out .asounrc for yourself (I did, with a little support and some grafting, and I'm not exactly a linux intermediate-level user), it's definitely a quicker proposition to have things 'just work' if you 'run with the crowd' in terms of audio interfaces because all of that fiddly stuff will have already been sorted by others.

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PostSubject: Re: M-Audio Firewire 1814   Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:15 am

[quote="andre"]
Quote :

Can you recommend me a a udio interface, USB bus powered, with 4 ins and 4 outs that will work on Linux direct from out of the box?

I am happy with my M-audio Fast track. It has very good DA converters and is perfect for monitoring. But it has only 2 in/out ports.
I think that Fast Track Pro will work good.

Quote :
JACK by default only supports 2in and 2out
Jack will see all ports, if the driver supports them.
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